Comments on: Pumpkin Seeds: Anti-Corporate America Edition http://loudpoet.com/2004/07/08/441/ loudpoet.com: Blogging it like it is since 2003 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:59:45 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://loudpoet.com/2004/07/08/441/comment-page-1/#comment-113 Anonymous Sun, 18 Jul 2004 06:43:00 +0000 http://loudpoet.com/archives/441#comment-113 Never thought I'd see the day that PSI was afraid to sell out to a black man (Russel Simmons), so they go for the cowboy hat.....<br /><br />"Run! RUN!! little hip-hop poets! Come here in the Texas Clear Channel tent where it's safe and warm!!!"<br /><br />Just proves that some poets do things about the wrongs of the world, <br /><br />others?<br /><br />they just try to score points.<br /><br />PS-writing a poem isn't doing something. Neither is reading it. Never thought I’d see the day that PSI was afraid to sell out to a black man (Russel Simmons), so they go for the cowboy hat…..

“Run! RUN!! little hip-hop poets! Come here in the Texas Clear Channel tent where it’s safe and warm!!!”

Just proves that some poets do things about the wrongs of the world,

others?

they just try to score points.

PS-writing a poem isn’t doing something. Neither is reading it.

]]> By: Anonymous http://loudpoet.com/2004/07/08/441/comment-page-1/#comment-110 Anonymous Fri, 09 Jul 2004 19:42:00 +0000 http://loudpoet.com/archives/441#comment-110 I promise you there are already teams out there who have made the decision to drop out. It'll be fun and interesting to see what happens. I'm not going so I won't be there to see the S*^T storm, but I bet it'll be quite entertaining. <br /><br />dawn I promise you there are already teams out there who have made the decision to drop out. It’ll be fun and interesting to see what happens. I’m not going so I won’t be there to see the S*^T storm, but I bet it’ll be quite entertaining.

dawn

]]> By: Edward http://loudpoet.com/2004/07/08/441/comment-page-1/#comment-109 Edward Fri, 09 Jul 2004 14:53:00 +0000 http://loudpoet.com/archives/441#comment-109 I think that it is risky to be in a deal with them if it does become "clearchannel National Poetry slam or anything where they have to much say in the programing or organization, but sometimes c corporations just want to hedge their bets and be involved in as many cutting edge things as they can, I don't think NPS is part of their master plan to take over spoken word, its just some side thing they do in addition to a hundred other promotional things. That being said I think it is important not to relinquish control just because you are accepting sponsorship, I think the most they should be allowed to do is bleep out cursing in the broadcast and choose which poems to broadcast or not. This may sound like a lot but the fines fro cursing on the radio just got hiked to 750,000 an incident, and the choosing thing is the same thing that Def Poetry did, and no one seemed to have a problem with it then. <br /> I just think something needs to be done to make NPS more important than it has been in the past. Nobody outside the "scene" ever gives a shit whether it goes on at all. The freaking world series of darts gets huge crowds and coverage in Las Vegas, but no on e even knows what NPS is. I think that it is risky to be in a deal with them if it does become “clearchannel National Poetry slam or anything where they have to much say in the programing or organization, but sometimes c corporations just want to hedge their bets and be involved in as many cutting edge things as they can, I don’t think NPS is part of their master plan to take over spoken word, its just some side thing they do in addition to a hundred other promotional things. That being said I think it is important not to relinquish control just because you are accepting sponsorship, I think the most they should be allowed to do is bleep out cursing in the broadcast and choose which poems to broadcast or not. This may sound like a lot but the fines fro cursing on the radio just got hiked to 750,000 an incident, and the choosing thing is the same thing that Def Poetry did, and no one seemed to have a problem with it then.
I just think something needs to be done to make NPS more important than it has been in the past. Nobody outside the “scene” ever gives a shit whether it goes on at all. The freaking world series of darts gets huge crowds and coverage in Las Vegas, but no on e even knows what NPS is.

]]> By: Fish http://loudpoet.com/2004/07/08/441/comment-page-1/#comment-108 Fish Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:08:00 +0000 http://loudpoet.com/archives/441#comment-108 ClearChannel National Poetry Slam 2007<br /><br />How does that sound? <br /><br />I hate CC for my own personal reasons. They tried to buy my company out and by one technical error on their part; we were left in tact. Speaking from the point of view of an employed monger of a media company; CC will be the H.I.V to slowly kill NPS. ClearChannel National Poetry Slam 2007

How does that sound?

I hate CC for my own personal reasons. They tried to buy my company out and by one technical error on their part; we were left in tact. Speaking from the point of view of an employed monger of a media company; CC will be the H.I.V to slowly kill NPS.

]]> By: Tony http://loudpoet.com/2004/07/08/441/comment-page-1/#comment-107 Tony Fri, 09 Jul 2004 05:53:00 +0000 http://loudpoet.com/archives/441#comment-107 It's not corporate sponsorship that's the issue, Ed -- it's RJR and ClearChannel -- for me, especially the latter (enough poets smoke to at least make it an understandable sponsorship, even if I do find it personally abhorrent). But CC is a prime mover of the dumbing down of radio as a place to find new voices; they've censored antiwar songs; they've sponsored pro-war rallies and made the distinction between news and entertainment even more vague; they monopolize entire markets and put on narrow playlists. They're bad guys for artists. It's incredible to me that we're in bed with them. It’s not corporate sponsorship that’s the issue, Ed — it’s RJR and ClearChannel — for me, especially the latter (enough poets smoke to at least make it an understandable sponsorship, even if I do find it personally abhorrent). But CC is a prime mover of the dumbing down of radio as a place to find new voices; they’ve censored antiwar songs; they’ve sponsored pro-war rallies and made the distinction between news and entertainment even more vague; they monopolize entire markets and put on narrow playlists. They’re bad guys for artists. It’s incredible to me that we’re in bed with them.

]]> By: Edward http://loudpoet.com/2004/07/08/441/comment-page-1/#comment-106 Edward Thu, 08 Jul 2004 20:53:00 +0000 http://loudpoet.com/archives/441#comment-106 About the PSi thing: Once upon a time artists and writers did not have to go to corporatins for subsistence, they would receive funds from "patrons of the Arts" anyone from the King to an eccentric millionaire or the church. So now they are multinational corporations looking to improve their PR, they are no more or less evil or corrupt than any of the patrons of old. I think the real trick is to get corporations to fund something willingly that they don't fully understand. Let the corporations fund the poets, maybe it'll mean that more poets will be able to do it full time, and not have to work odd jobs. Maybe it'll mean we can be better organized, maybe even get healthcare like other writers or perfomers. Maybe they'll be funding their own downfall, and if not at least they'll fund some art some of the time. Political satirists get paid, left wing documentarians get paid, even activist administrators get paid so why not slam poets. About the PSi thing: Once upon a time artists and writers did not have to go to corporatins for subsistence, they would receive funds from “patrons of the Arts” anyone from the King to an eccentric millionaire or the church. So now they are multinational corporations looking to improve their PR, they are no more or less evil or corrupt than any of the patrons of old. I think the real trick is to get corporations to fund something willingly that they don’t fully understand. Let the corporations fund the poets, maybe it’ll mean that more poets will be able to do it full time, and not have to work odd jobs. Maybe it’ll mean we can be better organized, maybe even get healthcare like other writers or perfomers. Maybe they’ll be funding their own downfall, and if not at least they’ll fund some art some of the time. Political satirists get paid, left wing documentarians get paid, even activist administrators get paid so why not slam poets.

]]> By: Omar http://loudpoet.com/2004/07/08/441/comment-page-1/#comment-105 Omar Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:56:00 +0000 http://loudpoet.com/archives/441#comment-105 Why not take over marketing for Yummy Sandwich?<br /><br />No, really. Why not?<br /><br />I mean, there's the whole, you created a PR sh!tstorm and all, but there's the whole "I was a hater, now I'm a lover." angle. Okay, maybe that's too sell out for you...<br /><br />Or, by St. Cuthbert's beard, the only way to change the system is to become part of the system. Why not take over marketing for Yummy Sandwich?

No, really. Why not?

I mean, there’s the whole, you created a PR sh!tstorm and all, but there’s the whole “I was a hater, now I’m a lover.” angle. Okay, maybe that’s too sell out for you…

Or, by St. Cuthbert’s beard, the only way to change the system is to become part of the system.

]]> By: Xia Diaz http://loudpoet.com/2004/07/08/441/comment-page-1/#comment-104 Xia Diaz Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:10:00 +0000 http://loudpoet.com/archives/441#comment-104 Guy, it is very big of you to say that Yummy Sandwich has made a mistake, and they are good people. If more people were like you, the world would look pretty different. As for the job thing, always keep a resume updated and posted. You never know how long it takes to find another job. I've updated my resume two months ago, and I haven't gotten one response. As for the Clear Channel deal, how did that happen? Guy, it is very big of you to say that Yummy Sandwich has made a mistake, and they are good people. If more people were like you, the world would look pretty different. As for the job thing, always keep a resume updated and posted. You never know how long it takes to find another job. I’ve updated my resume two months ago, and I haven’t gotten one response. As for the Clear Channel deal, how did that happen?

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