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	<title>Comments on: Ghost Rider&#8217;s Qualified Success and What it Means for DC</title>
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		<title>By: plok</title>
		<link>http://loudpoet.com/2007/03/04/ghost-riders-qualified-success-and-what-it-means-for-dc/#comment-1526</link>
		<dc:creator>plok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody else remember Grant Morrison predicting that DC's day-glo multifareity would leave Marvel in the dust, in the coming years?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Guy (and Greg), thanks for the mention and the kind words -- you know there were some things I wrote in there that I'm not sure I don't disagree with, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody else remember Grant Morrison predicting that DC&#8217;s day-glo multifareity would leave Marvel in the dust, in the coming years?</p>
<p>Guy (and Greg), thanks for the mention and the kind words &#8212; you know there were some things I wrote in there that I&#8217;m not sure I don&#8217;t disagree with, too!</p>
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		<title>By: RJM</title>
		<link>http://loudpoet.com/2007/03/04/ghost-riders-qualified-success-and-what-it-means-for-dc/#comment-1524</link>
		<dc:creator>RJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 04:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've always felt that Jonah Hex (maybe with "Lost's" Josh Holloway as Hex) would make either a natural movie or even a weekly series (though the chance of getting a western on TV would be a crapshoot, maybe on HBO....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always felt that Jonah Hex (maybe with &#8220;Lost&#8217;s&#8221; Josh Holloway as Hex) would make either a natural movie or even a weekly series (though the chance of getting a western on TV would be a crapshoot, maybe on HBO&#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Guy LeCharles Gonzalez</title>
		<link>http://loudpoet.com/2007/03/04/ghost-riders-qualified-success-and-what-it-means-for-dc/#comment-1523</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy LeCharles Gonzalez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 04:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon: Identify yourself, soldier! Or is that, Sir? I heard a couple of you have moved up in the ranks!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Oscar: Stardust won't do much for DC or Warner Brothers since it's being distributed by Paramount and I believe Gaiman owns the rights for the book, which is better known as a novel than its original comics form these days. That said, if it does well, a Sandman movie could follow, which as I mentioned in the comment above, would be the kind of "V for Vendetta" output the WB would like to see between doses of Harry Potter and Batman.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Same for Y (Vaughan, not Bendis, BTW) and the upcoming Preacher TV show, though none of these will do as much for the DC brand as it will for their respective creators. It's a Catch-22 that, in the end, may find DC getting less credit than it possibly deserves for developing and/or nurturing successful properties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon: Identify yourself, soldier! Or is that, Sir? I heard a couple of you have moved up in the ranks!</p>
<p>Oscar: Stardust won&#8217;t do much for DC or Warner Brothers since it&#8217;s being distributed by Paramount and I believe Gaiman owns the rights for the book, which is better known as a novel than its original comics form these days. That said, if it does well, a Sandman movie could follow, which as I mentioned in the comment above, would be the kind of &#8220;V for Vendetta&#8221; output the WB would like to see between doses of Harry Potter and Batman.</p>
<p>Same for Y (Vaughan, not Bendis, BTW) and the upcoming Preacher TV show, though none of these will do as much for the DC brand as it will for their respective creators. It&#8217;s a Catch-22 that, in the end, may find DC getting less credit than it possibly deserves for developing and/or nurturing successful properties.</p>
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		<title>By: oscar</title>
		<link>http://loudpoet.com/2007/03/04/ghost-riders-qualified-success-and-what-it-means-for-dc/#comment-1522</link>
		<dc:creator>oscar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 03:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know you are not a gaiman fan but &lt;a HREF="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486655/" REL="nofollow"&gt;Stardust &lt;/a&gt; is sure being treated like a top film and is probably the testing ground for a Sandman movie (which would require a &lt;b&gt;high&lt;/b&gt; FX budget).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;also, brian michael bendis has started on a &lt;a HREF="http://www.efavata.com/CBM/Ylastman.htm" REL="nofollow"&gt;Y: The Last Man script&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;any thoughts on how this could help/hurt DC's desire to get more spandez on the movie screens?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know you are not a gaiman fan but <a HREF="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486655/" REL="nofollow">Stardust </a> is sure being treated like a top film and is probably the testing ground for a Sandman movie (which would require a <b>high</b> FX budget).</p>
<p>also, brian michael bendis has started on a <a HREF="http://www.efavata.com/CBM/Ylastman.htm" REL="nofollow">Y: The Last Man script</a>.  </p>
<p>any thoughts on how this could help/hurt DC&#8217;s desire to get more spandez on the movie screens?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 03:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where do you get off saying that D.C. will out do Marvel in the Box office? Marvel has quite a good record of already outdoing D.C. in the media content it has already put forward! DO you go to the movies, or did Sgt Spicer not let you? He probably didnt gove you a pass did he?&lt;br/&gt;Haa guess who!&lt;br/&gt;Someone from your past!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do you get off saying that D.C. will out do Marvel in the Box office? Marvel has quite a good record of already outdoing D.C. in the media content it has already put forward! DO you go to the movies, or did Sgt Spicer not let you? He probably didnt gove you a pass did he?<br />Haa guess who!<br />Someone from your past!</p>
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		<title>By: Guy LeCharles Gonzalez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy LeCharles Gonzalez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 01:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yow, that was quite a read! Some interesting points and overlap, some things I don't agree with at all, but I'm going to have to set aside some time for a more thorough rereading before I can properly comment on it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One other thing to point out, though, is how the structures of the two companies differ. Marvel is a singular entity, largely dependent on its own devices, and now that it has invested heavily to bring movie production in-house, their future is going to rest on being able to develop a steady stream of successful movies that doesn't feature Spider-Man or the X-Men.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;DC, on the other hand, as a division of &lt;a HREF="http://www2.warnerbros.com/main/company_info/company_info.html?frompage=wb_homepage" REL="nofollow"&gt;Warner Brothers Studios&lt;/a&gt;, is in the interesting position of being their overt publishing arm and a covert R&#038;D operation, suggesting that their wider range of offerings is surely intended to ultimately bear more silver screen fruit beyond the spandex set.  With Harry Potter having three (?) more movies in the pipeline and a revitalized Batman franchise (I'd argue that the jury is still out on Superman), the WB still needs an occasional V for Vendetta while it develops another tentpole franchise or three. Whether that comes from their stable of B-list superheroes; non-spandex titles like The Losers and DMZ; or adaptations from their new Minx imprint -- DC definitely has the &lt;b&gt;potential&lt;/b&gt; to easily outdo Marvel at the box office.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Potential, of course, doesn't mean much if it's never realized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yow, that was quite a read! Some interesting points and overlap, some things I don&#8217;t agree with at all, but I&#8217;m going to have to set aside some time for a more thorough rereading before I can properly comment on it.</p>
<p>One other thing to point out, though, is how the structures of the two companies differ. Marvel is a singular entity, largely dependent on its own devices, and now that it has invested heavily to bring movie production in-house, their future is going to rest on being able to develop a steady stream of successful movies that doesn&#8217;t feature Spider-Man or the X-Men.</p>
<p>DC, on the other hand, as a division of <a HREF="http://www2.warnerbros.com/main/company_info/company_info.html?frompage=wb_homepage" REL="nofollow">Warner Brothers Studios</a>, is in the interesting position of being their overt publishing arm and a covert R&#038;D operation, suggesting that their wider range of offerings is surely intended to ultimately bear more silver screen fruit beyond the spandex set.  With Harry Potter having three (?) more movies in the pipeline and a revitalized Batman franchise (I&#8217;d argue that the jury is still out on Superman), the WB still needs an occasional V for Vendetta while it develops another tentpole franchise or three. Whether that comes from their stable of B-list superheroes; non-spandex titles like The Losers and DMZ; or adaptations from their new Minx imprint &#8212; DC definitely has the <b>potential</b> to easily outdo Marvel at the box office.</p>
<p>Potential, of course, doesn&#8217;t mean much if it&#8217;s never realized.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 23:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF="http://circumstantial.wordpress.com/2007/03/02/quimbymarvel-and-hollywood/" REL="nofollow"&gt;Plok speaks the truth,&lt;/a&gt; it seems.  Nice analysis of this phenomenon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://circumstantial.wordpress.com/2007/03/02/quimbymarvel-and-hollywood/" REL="nofollow">Plok speaks the truth,</a> it seems.  Nice analysis of this phenomenon.</p>
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