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	<title>Comments on: 6Qs: Richard Eoin Nash, Social Publisher</title>
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		<title>By: Is Social Publishing simply Vanity Publishing 2.0?&#160;&#124;&#160;Free Verse Media</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is Social Publishing simply Vanity Publishing 2.0?&#160;&#124;&#160;Free Verse Media</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] appearance. That&#8217;s a story for another post, though. [ETA: Check out my interview with Nash here.]    Share and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Five Highlights from SXSW Interactive &#124; Digital Book World</title>
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		<dc:creator>Five Highlights from SXSW Interactive &#124; Digital Book World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nash&#8217;s social publishing initiative Cursor is attempting to tread similar ground as social gaming developers, and it will be interesting to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Future of the Novel is&#8230; Social? Video? Print? &#124; Digital Book World</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Future of the Novel is&#8230; Social? Video? Print? &#124; Digital Book World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an interview on loudpoet.com (my personal site), Nash describes social publishing from the reader&#8217;s perspective: For the reader-as-reader, what &#8220;social&#8221; means is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Freemium Blog - First things First &#8212; Freemium Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freemium Blog - First things First &#8212; Freemium Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gonzalez’ great interview with Richard, and take a look at my issues with Richard’s model http://loudpoet.com/2009/09/29/6qs-richard-eoin-nash-social-publisher/ and, fair play to him, Richard’s answers) Richard Nash has wrong with his otherwise great-looking [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gonzalez’ great interview with Richard, and take a look at my issues with Richard’s model <a href="http://loudpoet.com/2009/09/29/6qs-richard-eoin-nash-social-publisher/" rel="nofollow">http://loudpoet.com/2009/09/29/6qs-richard-eoin-nash-social-publisher/</a> and, fair play to him, Richard’s answers) Richard Nash has wrong with his otherwise great-looking [...]</p>
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		<title>By: richardnash</title>
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		<dc:creator>richardnash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So very true, Will. I&#039;ve certainly tried for years to demystify the  &lt;br&gt;process, trying to help the writers I was publishing understand the  &lt;br&gt;economics and politics of how things went from the editorial process  &lt;br&gt;through to a customer buying the book. It was mind-blowing how little  &lt;br&gt;my authors knew, even (especially?) those previously published. They  &lt;br&gt;were really kept int he dark, in part because within corporate  &lt;br&gt;publishing, few employees even had the big picture and could explain  &lt;br&gt;to authors how things worked.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What&#039;ll happen when the veils completely lifted? I don&#039;t know. The  &lt;br&gt;prestige may vanish. I&#039;m mindful of how a brand like Red Lemonade or  &lt;br&gt;any of the Cursor brands may be transitional. The consensus I&#039;ve seen  &lt;br&gt;so far is that most (though not all) people don&#039;t want to see it  &lt;br&gt;vanish, providing they can be part of it. They want the VIP category.  &lt;br&gt;But mostly so&#039;s they can be in it. That impulse might not hold up in  &lt;br&gt;the long run. The consensus may drift away from that type of  &lt;br&gt;validation...we&#039;ll see!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;_____________________&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://RNash.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://RNash.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;twitter: @r_nash</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So very true, Will. I&#39;ve certainly tried for years to demystify the  <br />process, trying to help the writers I was publishing understand the  <br />economics and politics of how things went from the editorial process  <br />through to a customer buying the book. It was mind-blowing how little  <br />my authors knew, even (especially?) those previously published. They  <br />were really kept int he dark, in part because within corporate  <br />publishing, few employees even had the big picture and could explain  <br />to authors how things worked.</p>
<p>What&#39;ll happen when the veils completely lifted? I don&#39;t know. The  <br />prestige may vanish. I&#39;m mindful of how a brand like Red Lemonade or  <br />any of the Cursor brands may be transitional. The consensus I&#39;ve seen  <br />so far is that most (though not all) people don&#39;t want to see it  <br />vanish, providing they can be part of it. They want the VIP category.  <br />But mostly so&#39;s they can be in it. That impulse might not hold up in  <br />the long run. The consensus may drift away from that type of  <br />validation&#8230;we&#39;ll see!</p>
<p>_____________________<br /><a href="http://RNash.com" rel="nofollow">http://RNash.com</a><br />twitter: @r_nash</p>
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		<title>By: Will Hindmarch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Hindmarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw Mr. Nash speak recently at the Decatur Book Festival here near Atlanta, and one thing that stuck out to me was the disparity between the audience&#039;s notions of what publishing is and the rather simple assertions that Nash was trying to get across. People find publishing much more mysterious and secretive than it actually is, and I think they want it that way because it is somewhere in that mysterious back room of the publishing operation that the validation of one&#039;s work takes place. When publishing is revealed to be simple choices (made in complex circumstances), the illusion fades and it becomes clear: anyone can be published, depending on the publisher. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The question, to my mind, is how to maintain the prestige of being published when the mystery is swapped out for community. Will communal approval and praise fulfill the same validating effect? I&#039;ll be watching for Cursor to find out. Good luck, sirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw Mr. Nash speak recently at the Decatur Book Festival here near Atlanta, and one thing that stuck out to me was the disparity between the audience&#39;s notions of what publishing is and the rather simple assertions that Nash was trying to get across. People find publishing much more mysterious and secretive than it actually is, and I think they want it that way because it is somewhere in that mysterious back room of the publishing operation that the validation of one&#39;s work takes place. When publishing is revealed to be simple choices (made in complex circumstances), the illusion fades and it becomes clear: anyone can be published, depending on the publisher. </p>
<p>The question, to my mind, is how to maintain the prestige of being published when the mystery is swapped out for community. Will communal approval and praise fulfill the same validating effect? I&#39;ll be watching for Cursor to find out. Good luck, sirs.</p>
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		<title>By: richardnash</title>
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		<dc:creator>richardnash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 21:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aha, I see what you&#039;re saying. Hmm. To be perfectly candid, what  &lt;br&gt;you&#039;re describing is a process that has less traction with books than  &lt;br&gt;with music. I&#039;d love to see it gain more, but the reality is that the  &lt;br&gt;ease of music sampling (30-60 seconds, 4 minutes at most) compared to  &lt;br&gt;book sampling (an hour or more to get enough read), combined with the  &lt;br&gt;equally radical difference in the overall amount of time require to  &lt;br&gt;consume it, means that most readers look for a more intense and  &lt;br&gt;reliable type of recommendation than what the cool kids are reading.  &lt;br&gt;It&#039;s more about what your friend, whether s/he is cool or not, is  &lt;br&gt;reading. Now, definitely, some books flow the way you describe— &lt;br&gt;especially ones that involve sex and violence, but most flow the way I  &lt;br&gt;describe. And nothing I&#039;m doing precludes the development of either,  &lt;br&gt;and certainly we would do everything we could to get super- &lt;br&gt;transmitters to read and talk about the books—at Soft Skull I spent as  &lt;br&gt;much time doing that as I spent pitching newspapers. Think of the  &lt;br&gt;greatest super-transmitter int he area of books—Oprah. Her genius is  &lt;br&gt;not that she&#039;s cool, it&#039;s that her audience connects to her as if she  &lt;br&gt;is one of their closest friends. Or take Chuck Palahniuk—subject  &lt;br&gt;matter and style a little closer to the kind of stuff you&#039;d get music-  &lt;br&gt;and fashion-esque dissemination of the type you&#039;re writing about.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess, basically, that I see the phenomenon, but I see it more as a  &lt;br&gt;part of culture, rather than as a part of a business?&lt;br&gt;_____________________&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://RNash.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://RNash.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;twitter: @r_nash</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha, I see what you&#39;re saying. Hmm. To be perfectly candid, what  <br />you&#39;re describing is a process that has less traction with books than  <br />with music. I&#39;d love to see it gain more, but the reality is that the  <br />ease of music sampling (30-60 seconds, 4 minutes at most) compared to  <br />book sampling (an hour or more to get enough read), combined with the  <br />equally radical difference in the overall amount of time require to  <br />consume it, means that most readers look for a more intense and  <br />reliable type of recommendation than what the cool kids are reading.  <br />It&#39;s more about what your friend, whether s/he is cool or not, is  <br />reading. Now, definitely, some books flow the way you describe— <br />especially ones that involve sex and violence, but most flow the way I  <br />describe. And nothing I&#39;m doing precludes the development of either,  <br />and certainly we would do everything we could to get super- <br />transmitters to read and talk about the books—at Soft Skull I spent as  <br />much time doing that as I spent pitching newspapers. Think of the  <br />greatest super-transmitter int he area of books—Oprah. Her genius is  <br />not that she&#39;s cool, it&#39;s that her audience connects to her as if she  <br />is one of their closest friends. Or take Chuck Palahniuk—subject  <br />matter and style a little closer to the kind of stuff you&#39;d get music-  <br />and fashion-esque dissemination of the type you&#39;re writing about.</p>
<p>I guess, basically, that I see the phenomenon, but I see it more as a  <br />part of culture, rather than as a part of a business?<br />_____________________<br /><a href="http://RNash.com" rel="nofollow">http://RNash.com</a><br />twitter: @r_nash</p>
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		<title>By: richardnash</title>
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		<dc:creator>richardnash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotcha. Pretty porous. In fact, it is my contention that there was  &lt;br&gt;always a level of porosity, especially amongst independents. With  &lt;br&gt;hindsight, while I was making the decisions about what Soft Skull  &lt;br&gt;would publish, I was really more of a conduit through which Soft  &lt;br&gt;Skullness expressed itself. I never read a manuscript in a vacuum, it  &lt;br&gt;always came with context, what other folks thought of it, where else s/ &lt;br&gt;he published, studied etc. Interns and volunteers commented on it, etc  &lt;br&gt;etc. My job was to interpret and channel all this opinion, since raw  &lt;br&gt;voting just doesn&#039;t work with art &amp; culture. So, in a sense, all this  &lt;br&gt;does is make that process more efficient and systematic and  &lt;br&gt;transparent. The editor and publisher and staff, their/our role is to  &lt;br&gt;listen to and help express the will of the community... Ideally, in  &lt;br&gt;fact, agents and established authors would submit through the  &lt;br&gt;community but that just ain&#039;t gonna happen to start with, so we&#039;ll  &lt;br&gt;have to have these two tiers, otherwise we&#039;ll lose writers I&#039;m certain  &lt;br&gt;the community would want us to be publishing...&lt;br&gt;_____________________&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://RNash.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://RNash.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;twitter: @r_nash</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotcha. Pretty porous. In fact, it is my contention that there was  <br />always a level of porosity, especially amongst independents. With  <br />hindsight, while I was making the decisions about what Soft Skull  <br />would publish, I was really more of a conduit through which Soft  <br />Skullness expressed itself. I never read a manuscript in a vacuum, it  <br />always came with context, what other folks thought of it, where else s/ <br />he published, studied etc. Interns and volunteers commented on it, etc  <br />etc. My job was to interpret and channel all this opinion, since raw  <br />voting just doesn&#39;t work with art &#038; culture. So, in a sense, all this  <br />does is make that process more efficient and systematic and  <br />transparent. The editor and publisher and staff, their/our role is to  <br />listen to and help express the will of the community&#8230; Ideally, in  <br />fact, agents and established authors would submit through the  <br />community but that just ain&#39;t gonna happen to start with, so we&#39;ll  <br />have to have these two tiers, otherwise we&#39;ll lose writers I&#39;m certain  <br />the community would want us to be publishing&#8230;<br />_____________________<br /><a href="http://RNash.com" rel="nofollow">http://RNash.com</a><br />twitter: @r_nash</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Nash Pushes Social Publishing &#124; Publishing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Nash Pushes Social Publishing &#124; Publishing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] questions about Cursor, his portfolio of niche social publishing communities, on Guy LeCharles Gonzalez&#8217;s media marketing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Future of the Novel is&#8230; Social? Video? Print? &#171; Digital Book World</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Future of the Novel is&#8230; Social? Video? Print? &#171; Digital Book World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an interview on loudpoet.com (my personal site), Nash describes social publishing from the reader&#8217;s perspective: For the reader-as-reader, what &#8220;social&#8221; means is [...]</description>
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